Im having a crisis in faith. Im about to embark on a risky journey with a lot at stake against the wishes of a few in my life. I can't say why outwardly, but this has Amma's signature all over it, as everything has fallen beautifully in place without much effort on my part. I feel that our faith gets tested when we have a lot to lose, but yet, intuitively we know that we would regret if we did not take the plunge. I guess Im not asking for help, as no one can help me have faith in my guru. But I am expressing my fear, fear of the unknown, of being jolted out of my comfort zone, and to learn to trust the guru completely to take care of my needs. Ive heard stories of devotees and seekers who have left their homes without a dime to their name, but God took care of everything....they lived entirely on faith.
Baby I've been runnin' on faith.........
Baby I've been runnin' on faith.........
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Re: Faith
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:05 AMHey Madhu welcome back ;o)
I think the further we go on our spiritual path and the stronger our connection to the source becomes, our faith gets tested more so and in more challenging settings sometimes.
Many times I will be presented with a situation and i will tell myself "Ok don't lose faith, Amma is right here and will provide as She always does" just when I am about to give up, She comes through.. Just when i am about to lose faith, She shows up and then I am standing there like" this always happens, just when I am about to give up She shows me She is there" everytime this happens i tell myself, "why are you freaking out, see that, Amma is right there, remember this for next time" and then I remember it for next time just until i lose faith again lol.. I am noticing though that I stay calm longer now, and that I do not lose sight on everything anymore, just the things that really push me out of my comfort zone and sometimes I am able to surender completely and have faith in those situations too, though not always.. maybe one day i will attain perfect faith, definitely a lifetimes worth of sadana ;o)
sometimes faith requires lots of blind faith.
Good luck in whatever your current situation is. Amma loves us all She will not let us fall, too far, maybe just enough to get the lesson whatever it may be. ;o)
Namah Sivaya
bala
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:17 AMYeah its like the older I get the more afraid I become sometimes. My wild days were not that long ago. I once drove from New York to Cali in a beat up pick-up truck with hardly any money sleeping in the back under the starry sky
Who did I have faith in then, I had no guru....or did I?
But now I cannot ignore what my inutition tells me to do, even though my practical mind has other ideas. Ive been studying astrology to see where my karma takes me, but now my views have changed yet again. I have a friend who just came from amritapuri staying with me who is also a student of jyotish. It all started just before her arrival. She's discovered that jyotish has no merit when you are with a satguru as they take your karma in another direction. Its more important to go with your intuition, you soul will not be satisfied unless it experiences what it came to, for "better or for worse" -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:34 AMI can really relate to the "older I get the more afraid I become sometimes" I used to the craziest thing and never had a worry, like I lived in a bubble or something. Guess maybe childlike innocence and being more in touch with our intuition has something to say for this. Maybe the more responsiblities and life altering changes that are presented in our life, the more cautious we become. It is such a lila though, because we are not the ones even driving our own car, we just think we are.
I am hearing alot of people going this situation. Where their heart and intuition is telling them something very strongly, even though it does not or may not make much sense logically. And almost like their is just no choice, because the heart is speaking sooooo loudly. I am going trhough this myself actually. I am about to make a very life altering change in my life, it is speaking sooooo strongly in my heart and in my intuition, there really is no more space to look backwards and stay in the situations i previously have been in because i must step forward into this big unknown. Though logically, i am getting caught up because logically what is about to take place in my life does not make much sense. I know Amma is there in all of this, I feel Her very strongly, I guess I am just very limited in my perception of what is about to happen. I am trying to see the whole picture of things though the painting is not finished yet. I need to just remember that God paints the most amazing masterpieces!! So just having faith that this picture, this life altering change in my life is going to turn out just as beautiful as all the other huge unknown things that have taken place in my life.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:43 AM"I am trying to see the whole picture of things though the painting is not finished yet. I need to just remember that God paints the most amazing masterpieces!! So just having faith that this picture, this life altering change in my life is going to turn out just as beautiful as all the other huge unknown things that have taken place in my life. "
YES. I believe that God paints masterpieces even through our own "mistakes" Sometimes what we perceive as a mistake is really no mistake at all. Isn't faith the most important part to realizing God? To ask God for what we need and to trust that he/she will provide it. I often wonder these days, what am I really afraid of? What am I afraid of losing? Even if I have nothing, I still have air in my lungs and spirit in my heart. Wasn't it Roosevelt who said that we have nothing to fear but fear itself....think about that one for a minute. -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:49 AMeven though i may not see the end result yet, all that I do now no matter how small it is paves the way and lays the foundation for the future.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 11:33 AM"I have a friend who just came from amritapuri staying with me who is also a student of jyotish. It all started just before her arrival. She's discovered that jyotish has no merit when you are with a satguru as they take your karma in another direction. Its more important to go with your intuition, you soul will not be satisfied unless it experiences what it came to, for "better or for worse""
Just be honest with yourself if it doesn't pan out. What I mean is, don't go looking for 'proof' of your intuition to justify it, if things don't happen. I've known too many people that have gone on intuition and it only leads to delusion and running in circles. They never learn this until their good karma runs out and their 'intuition' is revealed for what it is. Good karma lets us make mistakes and not pay for them, with or without a guru.
The idea that "jyotish" has no merit when you are with a satguru is not completely true. Jyotish is not completely accurate, either.
Best of luck to you, M.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 1:35 PM"Just be honest with yourself if it doesn't pan out. What I mean is, don't go looking for 'proof' of your intuition to justify it, if things don't happen. I've known too many people that have gone on intuition and it only leads to delusion and running in circles."
Yes very true....i think though that even if the outcome is not a pleasant one, its still destiny that we have to fulfill. Our souls deep down have a desire to live our karmas, whether they are pleasant or not. The real benefit and reward for my risk is the change to my soul, my energy, how do you say it...to get off my ass and start moving again! Sometimes things that we do in life have no immediate results or benefits, but some things cannot be seen. Its more important to have the experience than it is to live in mediocrity!!
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Re: Faith
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 1:16 PMMadhurima,
You are back. I've missed you. I am so glad to read your posts.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 1:23 PMThanks guys, good to be back, at least with my real name....until I decide to go schizo and self-destruct again, LOL. I havn't quite come to terms with my online life yet, I still need to get away from it all
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Re: Faith
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 1:27 PMas for jyotish...it's entirely subjective, like Amma's directions. What she tells one devotee is completely different for what she tells another. I find myself plunging into astrology only to realize that it holds me back and that I must live according to my higher knowledge, feelings, intuition whatever you want to call it. -
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Re: Faith
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 1:30 PMI think that the chart shows the karmas, but the satguru is in charge of the grahas so then ultimatley it is the satguru who is in control of our karmas. I can't quote directly, but Yogananda was due to get verty ill or die, but when his guru intervened, he was saved from the karma.
I cant get into detail about why I feel this way b/c it would divulge things in my life that Im unwilling to share publicly, but I feel that my karma has been changed. What else can I say
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